I just remember her being ever present, you know, around these things, and that you could always expect to see her at certain events, so you could expect to see her at the anniversary celebrations for the Organization for Black Struggle, you could expect to see her at the Coalition of Black Trade Unionists.

I think for people like myself and Alice Windom, that's what we've been trying to do with our lives, to leave those lessons, to participate in events, activities, that are projecting the self-determination of Black folk, but also the democracy here in the spaces where we're going to be living, and ultimately the nation.

And I saw that, like I said, throughout all of the Windoms, their passion for education, their love of learning. In fact, that's one of the principles of the Community Education Center was lifelong learning. And I'm very attracted to that notion, because I do believe learning is lifelong, and you have to be a learner as long as you're breathing, so that you continue to evolve as a human being in the space that is actually anti-Black and anti-human in many ways, and so that obstacle, you have to learn how to transcend that, so that you can be a whole, human, healthy, sane person.

I think she was most proud of her Pan-Africanist experience. Her work with countries that were fighting for liberation and understanding that's what folks in this country, some of us, were fighting for, on a different level...So, being in the nexus between Africa and the US and making a bridge of those peoples and being in company with the other folks who were doing that, because that's certainly what Malcolm X was doing. He was moving that relationship between Africans here, and Africans abroad.